tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7597656451205429515.post442765108461518202..comments2024-02-16T17:52:44.944-06:00Comments on The Nuclear Green Revolution: Keeping up with China: The Economic Advantage of Molten Salt Nuclear TechnologyCharles Bartonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01125297013064527425noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7597656451205429515.post-83623185801680048472010-12-12T14:03:11.933-06:002010-12-12T14:03:11.933-06:00I doubt the competitiveness of the Russians - see ...I doubt the competitiveness of the Russians - see the price negotiations with Bulgaria ... looks like they offer or blackmail (if you wish ) 7 billion , which looks quite expensive next to Areva's Olkiluoto stumbling ... <br />I would say that cheap Chinese and Indian nuclear would be a good wake-up call for the old big powers, which have restricted the global widespread of nuclear for peaceful purposes ... USA could join the party by mass exporting small nuclear ( Hyperion etc. friends ) and develop and commercialize LFTR or any other Throrium utilizing reactory type, which could be done by a Norwegian company ..Yordan Georgievhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03314222795726618555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7597656451205429515.post-10698838148551038572010-12-04T18:07:00.315-06:002010-12-04T18:07:00.315-06:00I believe there is a more to low construction cost...I believe there is a more to low construction costs in China than low labor costs. Low cost of capital, lack of onerous regulation and maybe most important skilled labor and management for large construction projects. If you are building enormous number of bridges, roads, rail, factories, oh and reactors, you become good at it.SteveK9noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7597656451205429515.post-29535694616105221342010-12-01T15:18:22.522-06:002010-12-01T15:18:22.522-06:00Martin, an underground silo can be be built to be ...Martin, an underground silo can be be built to be earthquake proof, to withstand 500 MPH winds, and an almost direct hit by a nuclear device. Molten salt reactor operate at one atmosphere pressure and have no need for metal containment vessels, but can be given them if it is considered desirable.Charles Bartonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01125297013064527425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7597656451205429515.post-22598325115841414402010-12-01T14:04:49.786-06:002010-12-01T14:04:49.786-06:00OK Let's say that the molten salt reactor is b...OK Let's say that the molten salt reactor is built in an underground concrete silo. Should I think there will be no metal containment vessel?<br />Should we assume the silo would be earth quake resistant?Martin Burklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7597656451205429515.post-37352244834225359162010-12-01T12:43:10.026-06:002010-12-01T12:43:10.026-06:00While a modest excavation should not be expensive,...While a modest excavation should not be expensive, protection against aircraft impact seems unnecessary for molten salt reactors in any case. The effect of a direct impact on the fission vessel would be to disperse the salt, which would rapidly freeze, and with the regular removal of fission products as part of the system the radioactive release would be small and contained.<br /><br />I think it is a gross mistake to acquiesce in additional overbuild construction cost that is not justified by any safety case. It helps no-one who is seriously interested in improving society. In the name of efficiency, if nothing else, I would resist all such attempts.Joffanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18025437863119781181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7597656451205429515.post-53061663691183086522010-12-01T11:16:46.306-06:002010-12-01T11:16:46.306-06:00Donb, not unless they start building air craft tha...Donb, not unless they start building air craft that can fly underground, into the silos where i think MSRs should be housed.Charles Bartonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01125297013064527425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7597656451205429515.post-25274265388223601002010-12-01T09:50:38.094-06:002010-12-01T09:50:38.094-06:00Charles Barton wrote:
It is possible, for example ...Charles Barton wrote:<br /><i>It is possible, for example that the NRC might impose unreasonable expectations on molten salt cooled reactors. Demanding, for example, that they include the same safety features as LWRs, even though they do not have many LWR safety problems.</i><br /><br />If a molten salt reactor is to be located above ground, it is reasonable to expect that the NRC will require a containment structure. Though there is no danger of a steam explosion as with a light water reactor, this structure will be required to withstand the impact of an airliner.donbnoreply@blogger.com